Re: Defender of the Faith

Posted by Syntax on .

Proving the validity of the Book of Mormon by asking someone to read the Book of Mormon is total bullshit. That's like trying to find out if your friend is lying by asking your friend if he's lying.
"Hey man, are you lying to me?"
"No"
"Okay."
Think about what you're saying, Dan. If the Book of Mormon contained evidence to suggest that the book is false, nobody would follow it would they?

I hate the Mormon religion for several reasons. First, because I saw first hand how it destroyed my best friend's childhood. Both his parents are devout Mormons, yet every experience I've ever had at his house as a kid was a nightmare. His dad beat all of his children with 2x4s and other objects to try and instil Mormon values into them. He also molested other children thinking it was okay as long as he stayed devoted to God. His dad grew up believing that polygamy was okay, so his parents divorced when his mom found out that he was cheating on her. After his parents divorced, his mom turned into a total bitch. She made an adequate income, but they lived like shit because she blindly gave 10% of her gross income towards the church's tithing. Whenever she bought food, she kept it in a locked storage room so that they would be prepared for the "end of the world" that her church convinced her was coming "any day now". That left my friend with nothing to eat except potatoes and oatmeal for 10 fucking years, while all the good food was locked away. His older brother was hospitalized twice for malnutrition, but his mom didn't give them better food until fellow Mormons started coming over for dinner. She acted like they had the greatest family whenever they were around, but as soon as they were gone, she'd turn back into the bitch she was. It was so blatantly misleading that it helped me open my eyes to the kind of persona church-goers try to represent, while all of the hate that they constantly push aside slow destroys the foundation of their very lives.

I find it great how blacks weren't even considered people in the eyes of God until the 1970's. Did God's eyes change, or did the Church change them for him to try and uphold their "holy" image? I don't even want to ask what Christians or Mormons think about homosexuals. What happens if a boy grows up in a Mormon family and realizes he's attracted to other men? Is he supposed to tell his parents and face punishment and ridicule, or live a life of shame for feeling differently than what he's told to feel by a fictitious book written by some extremist hundreds of years ago?

And Fatdan, I have to ask you, what is your stance on masturbation? Because I know for a fact that you masturbated all over those pictures of Anna Banana and the perverted thoughts of getting with her. Don't forget you used to be a desperate and lonely guy taking a dead-end degree in a crappy community college before you decided to preach your bullshit to a group of Deutsche gehirnwäsche vorgenommene leute for two years. In fact, I don't think much has changed.

QED.

In reply to: Defender of the Faith posted by dashagua on .

I wrote a 12-paragraph reply to the assertations of Syntax and Johnross, but I overstepped the maximum limit on posting comments. Let me just say that I've heard more anti-Mormon comments than all of you combined. You haven't even begun to get to the heart of the issue. For those seriously considering the legitimacy of Joseph Smith's work, I'd recommend B. H. Robert's 6-volume work "A Comprehensive History of the Church." Roberts, writing in 1930, analyzed a plethora of anti-Mormon arguments and successfully refutes each one as he presents a satisfying history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I read 4 volumes in the last month of my mission, and I highly recommend it.

I'd also steer you in the direction of modern LDS research if you'd like to see the "other side" of these arguments. Check out www.farms.byu.edu for modern Mormon scholarly works. You won't find anything that blows you away, but you'll see what I mean when I say that the issue is more complicated than you make it out to be.

If you ever seriously want to know if what we believe in is true, get yourself a Book of Mormon, read it, ponder it and pray about it. That's our message. That's what I preached for two years in Germany, and there's nothing fradulant about that.

And if you want to keep throwing anti-Mormon arguments on this message board, just try it. I dare you.

Replies:

Oh for crying out loud!	HuBBsDoctor -- 10/14/2005 10:14 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	Syntax -- 10/15/2005 2:29 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	johnross -- 10/14/2005 10:57 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	HuBBsDoctor -- 10/14/2005 11:19 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	Syntax -- 10/15/2005 2:54 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	HuBBsDoctor -- 10/15/2005 10:06 am UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	johnross -- 10/14/2005 1:18 pm UTC
Re: Oh for crying out loud!	HuBBsDoctor -- 10/14/2005 1:27 pm UTC
Addendum...	HuBBsDoctor -- 10/14/2005 10:36 am UTC